Radeon RX Vega Unveiled: AMD Announces $499 RX Vega 64 & $399 RX Vega 56, Launching August 14thby Ryan Smith on July 30, 2017 10:30 PM EST
Buying Radeon RX Vega: Prices & Bundles
Now that we’ve taken a look at the cards, let’s take a look at the prices. Card pricing and availability on RX Vega is not going to be very straightforward, so this requires a bit of focus.
First off, AMD will be offering RX Vega cards both with and without bundles. The latter point is going to be especially important, because these are no ordinary bundles. But if you just want a card – full stop – then AMD will be selling both the Vega 56 and Vega 64 stand-alone. These cards will go for $399 and $499 respectively. These prices, coincidentally enough, are relatively close to the prices of the GeForce GTX 1070 and GTX 1080, give or take some price fluctuations due to cryptocurrency mining demands.
As for AMD’s fancier Vega 64 Limited Edition and Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition card, these will not be available on a stand-alone basis at all. If you want these cards, they will only be available as part of a bundle.
However what’s not being said by AMD is how much of the RX Vega launch supply will be allocated to stand-alone cards. For various reasons the bundles are more lucrative to AMD and its partners, and as a result it’s difficult to imagine AMD sending the bulk of the cards to stand-alone configurations, or even a 50-50 split. Instead I expect that the bulk of the cards will go towards the bundles. So while we’re going to have to see what launch day brings next month, I’m not convinced that stand-alone cards will be available in great numbers.
Instead, if you want an RX Vega on launch day, and this is where things take an interesting turn. AMD has offered hardware bundles and game bundles before, but for their latest Radeon family, they have never offered a bundle quite like this.
For what amounts to a $100 premium, AMD is doing a combined software and hardware bundle. AMD calls these the Radeon Packs, and they include bundled games and hardware discounts. In short, if you commit to buying an RX Vega card for $100 more, you get access to AMD’s best cards with additional games and some sizable hardware discounts.
Overall the bundle contains the following items: an RX Vega video card, a $200 discount on Samsung’s CF791 34-inch WQHD Curved Freesync monitor, a $100 discount on a Ryzen 7 + motherboard bundle, and 2 AAA games (for North America this is Wolfenstein II and Prey, coming from AMD’s close partner Bethesda).
- AMD Radeon RX Vega Card
- 2 Bundled Games (For US: Wolfenstein II and Prey)
- $200 Discount: Samsung CF791 34-inch Widescreen Freesync Monitor
- $100 Discount: Ryzen 7 + Motherboard Combo
Perhaps the most important aspect of the deal is how the bundles work. Unlike traditional retailer bundles, these AMD bundles require purchasing the Radeon Pack version of the card. If you buy the stand-alone RX Vega cards, then you won’t get the games or qualify for the hardware discounts. And these Radeon Pack SKUs are, in turn, priced $100 over the stand-alone cards.
As for the contents of the bundle, the bundled games are rather straightforward: the bundle simply comes with the games (presumably in voucher form). For the hardware however, the discounts come in the form of an instant rebate on the hardware, not a voucher or other “bankable” form. This means that if you buy a Radeon Pack SKU, you must buy the discounted hardware at the same time to get the discount. You are not required to buy the hardware – instead paying the $100 premium just for the card selection and included games – but the discounts cannot be saved until later. It’s now or never.
All told then, the total cost to take full advantage of a Radeon Pack will not be cheap. The packs themselves are priced at $499 for the Vega 56 pack (Red Pack), $599 for a Vega 64 pack (Black Pack), or $699 for a Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition pack (Aqua Pack). Meanwhile, turning to our favorite retailer Newegg, the Samsung CF791 currently retails for $950, a Ryzen 7 1700X is $339, an a good X370 motherboard is $129 (or more). This would bring the total cost, after the $300 in rebates, to $1717. And this doesn’t account for external factors, such as which retailers are participating and whether they all price the most expensive component, the Samsung monitor, at the same $950 price.
The Rationale for Radeon Packs
Though unconventional, for AMD there is a reason behind these Radeon Packs. There are several, in fact.
First and foremost, AMD wants to sell gamers on a whole ecosystem, not just a single video card. They want to get gamers setup with a variable refresh monitor for smoother gaming, with the Samsung CF791 being a particularly popular (and large) monitor that’s a good fit for the expected performance of the RX Vega cards. Meanwhile as AMD is a GPU and CPU manufacturer, they of course want to get gamers buying both from them at the same time. It’s perhaps the strongest ecosystem play you can see a component vendor make, outside of a fully vertical company like Apple.
But more than that, the Radeon Packs are an attempt by AMD to “poison the well” for cryptocurrency miners, in order to ensure most RX Vega cards go to gamers. While we already have a basic idea of RX Vega’s mining performance via Vega FE, AMD seems genuinely concerned about miners scooping up RX Vega as well. So they want to prevent that from happening, and to assuage their gaming customers, they want to be seen as favoring gamers as well.
The bundles in turn are a shot at making RX Vega cards less palatable to miners by inflating their cost. All the miners need is a video card, so the extra $100 spent on the discounts they won’t use and the bundled games they won’t play just eats into the bottom line. For gamers on the other hand, hardware and software bundles have been a common fixture for years, and AMD believes that by bundling the cards with other things gamers would want, they can keep the cards desirable to gamers while making them less desirable to miners.
Even then it’s not a sure-thing for AMD. If RX Vega were to be especially awesome at mining, then miners could very well eat the cost of the card (this is how we got $900 R9 290s). Alternatively, for gamers who don’t need a new monitor or don’t want the games, then the bundles represent add-ins that inflate the cost of cards for them as well. So it will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Otherwise the final factors – and things not said by AMD – are volume and pricing. If AMD only expects a limited number of cards to be on the market at the launch, then shifting most of the supply into the bundles is a chance to de facto charge more for the cards and make a bit more profit off of their sale. If they’re going to sell out anyhow, why not charge more?
At any rate, while the focus for the moment is on the August 14th launch of the RX Vega cards, the bundles will be a longer-term play for AMD than just the launch window. The company hasn’t set a definitive expiration window for the program, and we’ve been told to expect it to continue through at least the rest of the year. So depending on how things go, it’s entirely possible AMD could continue to offer the Radeon Packs well into the future if they’re successful.
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KennyS - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - linkIt is said that Satan himself runs two of these to keep hell from freezing over.
Walletripper - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkMy Xtreme 980ti uses the same watts. Probably more at 1520mhz.
The_Assimilator - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkYour Xtreme 980Ti is also two generations older.
nathanddrews - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkAnd $650 launch MSRP.
nathanddrews - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkOops, $690 for the Xtreme...
CiccioB - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkThat's because it was top of the notch, not just a high end card as other on the market.
coolhardware - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linklol, love it. :-)
guidryp - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - link"At this point, one must give credit to AMD for their marketing program for the Radeon RX Vega. The company has opted to dip feed information over many months, and as a result this has kept the public interested in the architecture and consumer RX Vega cards."
I think you mean blame. This kind of dragged out release only pisses me off and cheer for them to implode.
broadbanned - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - linkSounds like a great idea, you like $40,000 GTX 1020 12MB RAM cards for gaming, right?
broadbanned - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - linkNext years model will only cost $39,998 and feature a whopping 13MB of RAM, but the power consumption will require 8000W dedicated to just the card and LN2 for light web browsing! Such a steal :P